Heath Shuler, ‘Bush Dog Democrat’

Here is my profile of Heath Shuler, ‘Bush Dog’. I’m doing this as part of Matt Stoller’s ‘Leash the Bush Dogs’ campaign which I have previously posted about.

Rep. Shuler throws the ball for NC-11 a supposedly conservative district. For more on ‘It’s the members not the districts…’ kefuffle Chris has been fighting read this awesome post by Paul Rosenberg at OrangeLand. It puts to rest the whine that ‘Bush Dogs’ make to the effect that they are representing their districts. They are not. Not even close.

He most likely owes his ‘career’ thus far in politics to his stint in the NFL as a ‘quarterback’ the quotation marks here signify that his tenure there was undistinguished as we see from the Wikipedia entry:

At the University of Tennessee, Shuler gained national attention as one of the Southeastern Conference‘s top quarterbacks. He held nearly all Volunteer passing records at the end of his career, although most of them have since been shattered by Peyton Manning. In 1993, he came in second in the vote for the prestigious Heisman Trophy.

Shuler was selected third overall in the 1994 NFL Draft by the Washington Redskins. He held out of training camp until he received a 7-year, $19.25 million contract and subsequently seemed to have a difficult time adjusting to the pro level. With no offensive weapons and an unsupportive group of fans, Shuler never flourished. After the 1996 season, Shuler signed with the New Orleans Saints. With even less talent than in Washington around Shuler, statistics were just as bad. He suffered a serious foot injury during the 1997 season in New Orleans and went through two surgeries.

After being unable to take the field due to his foot injury in his second season in New Orleans, Shuler signed with the Oakland Raiders, where he reinjured his foot in training camp and retired. As a pro, his career passer rating was a low 54.3 and in 2004 ESPN rated him the 17th biggest ‘sports flop’ of the past 25 years.[1]


Gee…not too good a rating there Heath…

So Heath got a pile of money for…well, not doing very much. I’d think he’d be interested in really achieving something in Congress that’s pure speculation on my part but perhaps that’s an avenue he could be approached on.  For reasons I can’t find he decided to get into politics by running for the House seat from the  furthermost west district in North Caroline. Here are the U.S. census demographics from for that district compared to national figures:
North Carolina, District 11 Census Data

Population: 619,177

North Carolina, District 11
National

Gender

North Carolina, District 11 National
  • Male: 48.3%
  • Female: 51.7%
  • Male: 49.1%
  • Female: 50.9%

Race / Origin

North Carolina, District 11 National
  • White: 91.2%
  • Black of African American: 4.6%
  • American Indian/Alaska Native: 1.6%
  • Asian: 0.5%
  • Native Hawaiian/Pacific Islands: 0.0%
  • Hispanic/Latino (of any race): 2.6%
  • Two or More Races: 1.0%
  • White: 75.1%
  • Black of African American: 12.3%
  • American Indian/Alaska Native: 0.9%
  • Asian: 3.6%
  • Native Hawaiian/Pacific Islands: 0.1%
  • Hispanic/Latino (of any race): 12.5%
  • Two or More Races: 2.4%

Age

North Carolina, District 11 National
  • Median Age: 40.6
  • 18 years and over: 78.7%
  • 65 years and over: 17.8%
  • Median Age: 35.3
  • 18 years and over: 74.3%
  • 65 years and over: 12.4%

Language Spoken at Home (population 5 years and older)

North Carolina, District 11 National
  • English Only: 94.8%
  • Language other than English: 5.2%
  • Spanish: 3.0%
  • English Only: 82.1%
  • Language other than English: 17.9%
  • Spanish: 10.7%

Employment Status (population 16 years and older)

North Carolina, District 11 National
  • Employed: 56.4%
  • Unemployed: 3.1%
  • Employed: 59.7%
  • Unemployed: 3.7%

Income

North Carolina, District 11 National
  • Median Household Income: $34,720
  • Per capita Income: $19,005
  • Male full-time, year round, workers median income: $29,912
  • Female full-time, year round, workers median income: $22,294
  • Families below poverty level: 8.4%
  • Individuals below poverty level: 12.0%
  • Median Household Income: $41,994
  • Per capita Income: $21,587
  • Male full-time, year round, workers median income: $37,057
  • Female full-time, year round, workers median income: $27,194
  • Families below poverty level: 9.2%
  • Individuals below poverty level: 12.4%

Education (population 25 years and older)

North Carolina, District 11 National
  • Graduate / Professional Degree: 7.4%
  • High School / Graduate or Higher: 78.5%
  • Bachelor’s Degree / Higher: 20.5%
  • Graduate / Professional Degree: 8.9%
  • High School / Graduate or Higher: 80.4%
  • Bachelor’s Degree / Higher: 24.4%

Marital Status (population 15 years and older)

North Carolina, District 11 National
  • Never Married: 19.5%
  • Now Married: 60.0%
  • Divorced: 9.7%
  • Never Married: 27.1%
  • Now Married: 54.4%
  • Divorced: 9.7%

Occupations (employed civilian population 16 years and older)

North Carolina, District 11 National
  • Management and Professional: 28.3%
  • Service: 15.8%
  • Sales and Office: 23.5%
  • Farming, Fishing, and Forestry: 0.8%
  • Construction, Extraction, etc.: 12.3%
  • Production, Transportation, etc.: 19.2%
  • Management and Professional: 33.6%
  • Service: 14.9%
  • Sales and Office: 26.7%
  • Famring, Fishing, and Forestry: 0.7%
  • Construction, Extraction, etc.: 9.4%
  • Production, Transportation, etc.: 14.6%

Class Of Workers

North Carolina, District 11 National
  • Private wage and salary: 76.3%
  • Government workers: 14.5%
  • Self-employed: 8.9%
  • Private wage and salary: 78.5%
  • Government workers: 14.6%
  • Self-employed: 6.6%


I’m no Bowers but I’m darned if I can see a big difference in the picture we get of this district from the rest of the nation. NC-11 folks appear to be doing pretty much what everyone else is doing. Divorce rate is the national average…heh! Extractive industries, coal mining and it’s attendant hazards is one, and timber seem to still be something the economy relies on there. More research might be a good idea. How do Mr. Shuler’s constituents view the current ‘regulation’ of the coal industry in his district. Does he view Mr. Bush’s MSHA performance as adequate? Does he support Bush in this area of government regulation? Or is he giving Bush a blank check on this?  Keep in mind that coal mining hazards do not go away once the mine is closed. No they most certainly do not. Soft wood pulp and chip production is also big in the western part of the state; until they cut it all down. I am now told that coal is not very important here and that furniture manufacturing and other industry has been gutted by ‘fair trade’. Recreation and recreation property are now the big things here. Back to coal mining specifically hilltop removal as an issue perhaps.

Let’s look at PVI then according to Cook on Oct 18, 2006 NC-11 was R+11 so I’d say Mr. Schuler did pretty well to win there. But then he had some help. Here’s who contributed to his campaign:
 
Heath Shuler (D)

Rivercrest LLC $25,200
Phillips & Jordan $21,000
Collins & Shuler Management $12,900
Avisco Inc $11,900
Nelson, Mullins et al $11,400
Intl Brotherhood of Electrical Workers $10,500
AFL-CIO $10,000
Air Line Pilots Assn $10,000
American Assn for Justice $10,000
American Federation of Teachers $10,000
American Fedn of St/Cnty/Munic Employees $10,000
American Postal Workers Union $10,000
AmeriPAC: The Fund for a Greater America $10,000
Blue Dog PAC $10,000
Carpenters & Joiners Union $10,000
Cmte for a Livable Future $10,000
Communications Workers of America $10,000
Forward Together PAC $10,000
Hope Fund $10,000
International Assn of Fire Fighters $10,000
Ironworkers Union $10,000
Laborers Union $10,000
National Assn of Letter Carriers $10,000
National Education Assn $10,000
New Democrat Coalition $10,000
Our Common Values PAC $10,000
PAC to the Future $10,000
Plumbers/Pipefitters Union $10,000
Sheet Metal Workers Union $10,000
Solidarity PAC $10,000
Teamsters Union $10,000
United Auto Workers $10,000
United Steelworkers $10,000
United Transportation Union $10,000

Quiet a few labor groups there. RiverCrest LLC is a real estate firm located in Tennessee interestingly enough. I’d have to guess from their website that they are looking for Shuler’s help with ‘recreation property’.

Rep Shuler was also supported by some in the netroots so he might be said to ‘owe us…’ but maybe not. His voting record is really inconsistent from this to this to this. Progressive Punch rating in the low 80s. I’d say the guy has not been doing his homework as it’s hard to reconcile his voting scores with the big time labor support we see above. I suppose he feels the ‘folks’ in NC-11 are really in support of  Bush’s war. Yet clearly some are not as this linked letter to the editor, the only one addressing the issue of Iraq, shows. This one shows that North Carolinians value that which BushCo. does not. Civil liberties that Democrats should be protecting but are not. Haven’t had time to research his FISA vote. Anyone out  there know how he voted?

I’s say that Rep. Shuler is out of step with his constituents on Iraq and can be persuaded to leave the ‘Bush Dog’ pack. Guy should be able to realize when it’s time to ‘run a new play’ to have success for his team. And I’d be pretty sure he thinks of his team as America not BushWorld. So I say let’s try and change his mind. Anyone from his district have some links to local action groups you’s like to share?

Flash Update: Please add  to and/or correct the information in this post in the comments. Thanks.

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28 Responses to Heath Shuler, ‘Bush Dog Democrat’

  1. Leslie H says:

    Hey friend, Heath’s last name is Shuler … no c. Just wanted to get that corrected for googly purposes. 🙂

  2. Gordon Smith says:

    Thanks for linking to Scrutiny Hooligans. We’ve got more Shuler coverage than anyone.

    See this post for local pressure on Shuler to pick a side in the Iraq debate:

    http://www.scrutinyhooligans.us/?p=3943

  3. Gordon Smith says:

    Oh, we don’t really do coal. Our industries were textiles and furniture. They fled over the last ten years leaving a tourist-based service economy. Shuler’s the Chair of the Subcommittee on Small Business and has been doing a pretty good job there. He’s also done well re: unions and environment. He’s infuriating re: Iraq, gay rights, stem cell research, and FISA.

    I’m wondering when we get to reexamine the effects of NAFTA.

  4. Cinco says:

    One of the things you’re missing is religion. A huge percentage of population not only attends church regularly, they attend two ore more times per week. Believe me, this area is NOT just like the rest of the nation. Except for Asheville, this area is dominated by hard core social conservatives.

    You should also know that there is significant portion of older people who vote Republican these days, regardless of the fact that they are registered Dems. That is, until Shuler came along.

    All politics are local and I don’t think you know a damn thing about NC-11 based on some national statistics. Education and good ol’ lobbying are the way to moderate Shuler not attacks.

  5. A.Citizen says:

    We do what we can which is why I included the U.S. Census data. I doubt it’s wrong. What it tells us, as you point out, is not clear.

    As to trying to get Rep. Shuler’s attention on issues of national importance, Iraq and civil liberties, at this stage no one is talking about ‘attacking’ him.

    Thanks again for your input. I’ll try and dig up some more on the religious component.

  6. Bobaloo says:

    Yes, please do attack Shuler. Because what we really really want is for a Charles Taylor clone to take back the seat.
    /sarc off

    Seriously, this is a SE region with one liberal haven within. The folks around here are good salt of the earth people who don’t deserve an ounce of scorn and bend over backwards for their neighbors and their community. Plus they are indeed social conservatives who were savvy enough to realize what a true detriment to the region Taylor was. Shuler is the absolute closest to a Liberal as your going to get. Oppose him at your peril as the alternative is much, much worse.

    By the way, Shuler doesn’t owe the “netroots” jack.

  7. A.Citizen says:

    Pretty defensive Mr. Bobaloo. Like many before you you don’t seem to grasp the essentials of what we are trying to do.

    I’m always amazed at the ‘good folks’ defense. How is it ‘good’ to be in favor of letting Bush destroy the Constitutional checks and balances which have served our nation so well and so long. How is it ‘good’ to fund an illegal, immoral occupation of a nation which never attacked us? Which never harbored those who attacked us? HOw are these the actions of ‘good’ people. Indeed who says that this is what the ‘good’ people of NC-11 wnat?

    You?

    Based on what?

    Last I looked ActBlue! raised a good amount of money for Rep. Shuler. Last I looked dkos and many other netroots groups supported his candidacy but now that he is in office and using his office to support actions which as best I can make out even his own constituents oppose you’d have us shut up?

    Sorry homer. Politics does not work that way. I know it’s hard for you to understand, since going on the attack with no information or the wrong information seems to come naturally for you, but…

    The ‘Bush Dogs’ blogswarm is not about ‘attacking’ Congresspeople. It’s about representative Democracy.

    Try it. You might like it.

  8. Bobaloo says:

    LOL, I’m IN NC 11. You’re in, what, Oakland? I voted for Shuler and campaigned against that jerkoff Charles Taylor.

    I’m defensive because I’m a Blue Dog. Otherwise known as a Centrist Democrat. I’m tired of being railed against by my allies for being a “DINO” and being told I’m a traitor by the right. Tired of being told I’m a Bush Dog, when I’ve never voted for him, but simply because I don’t advocate leaving Iraq a bigger mess than we made it. I vehemently disagreed with invading in the first place, but vehemently disagree with leaving the Iraq people to be overlorded by a new Taliban. Tired of being called a Democratic Chickenhawk, when so many of my fellow Dems support Afghan efforts, but don’t join the military themselves.
    So, sorry if I come off that way. I still view my friends on the left as allies, but lately it doesn’t sound like we centrists are being counted as allies to the left.

    Do you really, really believe a majority of the folks in NC11 read Kos or even know what the eff a blog is? Hell, they probably don’t even know what Blue Dog means. That’s not a slam on their intelligence, it’s just a fact that this isn’t a Metro area.
    Plus, I really hate the idea that some blogs, not you per se, feel that the Dems who gained their seat in November are beholden to Liberal blog sites. They are beholden to their constituents, but not to Markos or Jon Amato.

  9. A.Citizen says:

    No I don’t think that the residents of NC-11 know who Kos is nor care. But they know who Bush is and while I don’t know how they feel about Iraq or FISA I would suspect they are not happy. I’m not and I don’t believe that the fact that they go to church more than I means they are less ethical or morally concerned than I am.

    The point of withdrawal is that the only way to make less of a mess in Iraq is to move away from Bush’s idiotic attempt at imposing a military solution. That will not work. He doesn’t know what he is doing and neither do his generals. The Overton Window is so out of whack that no one is even talking about the time-tested solution to this problem. Getting every stakeholder both inside and outside Iraq to sit down and negotiate a political solution. Then use the military to keep that solution viable. What we have now is a puppet government installed by Bush which the Iraqis do not view as legitimate.

    We cannot even attempt this sort of solution because Bush wont’ allow it. Iran is not welcome at the table? It’s like trying to deal with immigration without talking to Mexico…Whoops! What am I saying?

    The point of all this is not that Shuler is ‘wrong’ but that by supporting Bush as he does he makes a solution in our national interest impossible. He and other ‘Bush Dogs’ need to get with their caucus and act with same to change course in Iraq by opposing Bush’s failed policies. This is what Republicans are doing on their side of the aisle. I see no problem with him doing that on ours.

    It’s what the people of the nation AS A WHOLE want. It’s what Democrats AS A WHOLE want. It’s up to him to decide if he’s going to do what is in the national interest or continue to support the policies of the worst President we’ve ever had. It’s up to him to explain this to his constituents. I’m sure they can understand this. Many are undoubtedly in favor of a change for the better.

    As I’ve tried to make clear I am not interested in attacking anyone. Other than Republicans that is. But it’s no longer the 18th century and when reps have to deal with issues which affect all of us then I have duty and a right, as a citizen, to speak out.

    I realize that Shuler is a far better rep. than his predecessor and I salute you for your efforts in getting him elected. If the Republicans still held this seat we would not be having this dialogue. I believe his election is an expression of the people’s desire for change not more of the same. My message to him is: Be a Democrat. Reject Republican memes, framing and failed policy and you will be doing a your duty as a citizen.

    That’s what I am trying to and will continue to do.

    And it’s worse than you think. I live in Berkeley, not Oakland!

  10. Bobaloo says:

    Thank you sincerely for the dialogue Citizen. I may not entirely agree with you (I do not believe Iran is part of the solution but part of a much bigger problem, but I digress) but it’s safe to say we’re on the same side here.

    I’m off to enjoy the weekend, but I’ll be back to your blog regularly.

  11. Bobaloo says:

    By the way, apologies for the defensiveness earlier.

  12. A.Citizen says:

    I’ve been known to get cranky at times myself.

    Enjoy the weekend. Labor Day! What a concept.

  13. A.Citizen says:

    Here is a dKos diary which starts the important work of tracking where ‘Blue Dog’ money comes from.

    Specifically, where in the MI Complex the $$$ come from. Shuler is shown as receiving cash from such. Check it out.

  14. Don Fickles says:

    And after all that you still can’t spell Heath Shuler’s name right? Sheesh.

  15. A.Citizen says:

    Hmmmmm…Shuler, Shuler, Shuler….How dat be?

  16. Cinco says:

    Shuler is a blue dog, but he far more green than most blue dogs. He is also more pro-labor and for fair trade than most blue dogs. Reflecting his district, I think he is also much more socially conservative than some blue dogs. He is a work in progress and still forming his opinions on some issues.

    On Iraq, he is not a hawk, he wants out as soon as possible, but he’s unwilling to stop funding the troops. I heard him talk about getting advice from retired generals and he believes that Iraq can not be “won” by military means. Do you think Charles Taylor would be saying anything other than the tired old “we must win there, so they don’t follow us home” crap?

  17. A.Citizen says:

    Charles Taylor, thanks to netroots support and the good citizens of NC-11, no longer represents this district.

    This is about Shuler and not Taylor.

  18. Don Fickles says:

    Hmmmmm…Shuler, Shuler, Shuler….How dat be?

    Have you checked the spelling in the post title?

    If you and the rest of the Stoller Dogs want credibility, maybe you all should hire an editor?

  19. A.Citizen says:

    Thnaks for that Don. You’ve been a big help.

  20. Terry C - Wingers R Whackjobs says:

    Shorter Bobaloo:

    If we’re nice to the Repukes, they won’t call us traitors and anti-American.

  21. A.Citizen says:

    Well…I think that’s a little simplistic but I tend to agree that, as I think you imply, that they will call us traitors no matter what we do as long as we are pointing out the truth of the matter. Which is they don’t have any idea of what to do about the challenge international terrorism poses to everyone.

    You can see that clearly today with Mr. Decider’s ‘secret’ photo op to the scene of his crimes. If the ‘surge is working…’ why can’t he fly into Baghdad and be greeted by the adoring throngs of ‘free’ Iraqis?

    Yep, after six years and Billions down the rat hole Mr. Decider is widely acknowledged to have authored the most complete collapse of a foreign policy since WWII. Poppy and Bar must be so proud!

    Question here is what does Rep. Shuler think of yet another dog and pony show at the expense of our nation’s blood and treasure? Is he still committed to supporting this failure of man? And if so, why?

  22. Gordon Smith says:

    Please, please, please, please,

    Spell the man’s name right. It’s Shuler. No “C”. Please fix this. It makes you look silly and irrelevant.

  23. A.Citizen says:

    Gee….here I stand accused of being ‘silly’, ‘irrelevant’ and ‘without credibility’ because my spellchecker chokes on Mr Shuler’s peculiarly spelled name.

    I think I’ve got it straightened out now. I sure hope so as, personally, I am a little irritated at the attitude. If you wonder why I suggest you clik on this link If you think this is ‘winning’ you are as dumb as you are morally repugnant…but hey, that’s what Republicans are all about, right?

    Watch the video all the way thru and then explain to me how my misspelling the name of a ‘Democrat’ who supports this sort of thing makes me ‘without credibility’.

    I will be interested in your argument.

  24. JW says:

    There’s nota drop of coal in Western North Carolina. In fact, Heath Shuler has been an absolute CHAMPION on Capitol Hill of increasing environmental standards for coal companies. He has also voted against coal-to-liquids fuel. He has been a champion of the Clean Water Protection Act (HR 2169) which would stop the valleyfill process in mountaintop removal coal-mining. He is a co-sponsor of the Safe Climate Act, the strongest global warming legislation in the house. He has been absolutely opposed to the sale of national forests in the 11th district (of which there are an enormous amount.)

    And this post is completely ignorant. NC-11 is the same as the rest of America because the divorce rate is similar?! Please. Bush took every county in this district, and t is hardcore social/religious conservative district. I’m pissed about some of the war stuff and the FISA vote, and I think thats justified. But we’ve run good progressive Democrats down here for years who couldn’t do a goddmamn thing. Show me one who can win and we’ll run him. But its bullshit that people are going to try to take him down or primary him. He is doing a good job for Western North Carolina on most things, and thats more than you can say for Charles Taylor or any other Republican who would represent this district.

    This page is bullshit, so I’ve got a compromise…
    If you care so much about western North Carolina, why don’t you head just north and write an attack page for Virginia Foxx (NC-05). She voted against sending relief to Katrina victims. She voted against renewing the civil rights act of 1965. She called hispanics sexual predators. SHES the person we need to focus on beating. its people like Foxx that we need to kick out of the House and hold their feet to the fire on Iraq and licking the President’s boots. She was slobbering all over him at the state of the union. Write an attack page on Virginia Foxx, because until then, you’re just going to get more Republicans elected in North Carolina. And I oppose that.

  25. A.Citizen says:

    Thanks for your forthright response JW. There are a couple of points I’d like to clarify. I’ll start with the biggest one first. No one in the ‘Bush Dog’ campaign is talking about mounting a primary challenge to Rep. Shuler. What this is about are the issues you yourself are ‘pissed about’ FISA and The MeatGrinder. As for my divorce rate comment that was a small, very small it would seem, attempt at humor which appears to have fallen flat.

    I don’t live in NC-11 so to do this I work with what I can find and guess what? I have folks such as yourself and others in this thread to correct me and add more detail. I would point out that the link near the coal comment has to do with what coal mining leaves behind not the mining itself. You say Rep. Shuler is good on these issues. I will take your word as to that.

    Now, I honestly don’t consider this page and it’s thread bullshit. What I consider bullshit is folks failing to realize that Congressmen and Congresswomen in the 21st century represent all of us not just the residents of NC-11 on issues of national import. I myself am considerably more than ‘pissed’ that Rep Shuler supports the failed, yes that’s failed, policies of a man I consider a mass-murderer who with his cabal of Fascists is bidding fair to destroy our nation’s moral fiber. This is serious shit and I am not about to agree nor ignore anyone who supports such as it seems from his voting record Rep. Shuler does. Rep Shuler is preventing the Democratic caucus from effectively opposing Bush. It’s my duty as a citizen to speak point this out and I will continue to do so. That’s something called democracy and I will not be persuaded that there is something wrong with that. Feel free to disagree with me. That’s very democratic also.

    As for your suggestion about Virginia Foxx I will pass it upstairs and we’ll kick the idea around.

    Watch for the next step in the ‘Leash the Bush Dogs’ campaign and thanks again for your input.

  26. JW says:

    >>What this is about are the issues you yourself are ‘pissed about’ FISA and The MeatGrinder.>>

    Perhaps I haven’t gotten a handle on the whole “bush dogs” movement yet. So, if you could point me towards somewhere or explain yourself what the purpose and goals are of doing this, that I know would be helpful for me.

    Regardless, I was taken aback by the antagnoistic language that this page was written in. We wear our few Dems with pride in the South, and to hear someone attacking them and even belittling his (admittedly unremarkable) NFL career, does not suit me well. Its patronizing. Do you know what I mean?

    >> As for my divorce rate comment that was a small, very small it would seem, attempt at humor which appears to have fallen flat.>>
    But your larger point was that NC-11 was similar to the rest of the country. Which is false.

    >>I don’t live in NC-11 so to do this I work with what I can find and guess what? I have folks such as yourself and others in this thread to correct me and add more detail. I would point out that the link near the coal comment has to do with what coal mining leaves behind not the mining itself.>>

    >>You say Rep. Shuler is good on these issues. I will take your word as to that.>>
    I on capitol hill for a non-profit that works on coal issues, and I’ve worked a lot with Shuler, and he’s been great, and done everything we’ve asked of him. So, I just want people to understand that he has been good on those issues. I also consider it my responsibility to brag on my elected officials who do well and who support our issues.

    >>Congressmen and Congresswomen in the 21st century represent all of us not just the residents of NC-11 on issues of national import. I myself am considerably more than ‘pissed’ that Rep Shuler supports the failed, yes that’s failed, policies of a man I consider a mass-murderer who with his cabal of Fascists is bidding fair to destroy our nation’s moral fiber. This is serious shit and I am not about to agree nor ignore anyone who supports such as it seems from his voting record Rep. Shuler does. Rep Shuler is preventing the Democratic caucus from effectively opposing Bush. It’s my duty as a citizen to speak point this out and I will continue to do so. That’s something called democracy and I will not be persuaded that there is something wrong with that. Feel free to disagree with me. That’s very democratic also.>>
    Like I said, pointing out and pressuring Shuler in regards to FISA and the War is fantastic! But I don’t feel like you effectively do that in your post at the top of the page. I feel like its intended to slime Heath, but he’s somebody we have to work with. I think that, perhaps if I was more clear on what exactly the goals of the “Bush dog” campaign were, or if I didn’t like and appreciate Shuler so much as a mountaineer and environmental champion, and rural advocate, and Congressman, I might not have such a strong reaction. That said, I hope you realize how it feels to have someone who doesn’t know much about where you live (which is FINE! I probably know even less about where you live) telling you all about your district and belittling WNC’s lone Democratic representative in my political lifetime.

    >>As for your suggestion about Virginia Foxx I will pass it upstairs and we’ll kick the idea around.>>
    Do it! She’s a bitch.

    Also, lets just work with the Democrats in NC-11 to persuade Shuler’s vote. I’ll call him tommorrow. I’m with you on that stuff.

    peace,
    JW

  27. A.Citizen says:

    To start with the U.S. Census shows a great similarity between NC-11 and the rest of the country. Now some will say statistics lie and some will say, those that live in NC-11 mostly, that nothing could be further from the truth but….there’s room for discussion for sure. My point was that folks in NC-11 BY THE NUMBERS don’t appear to be much different than most Americans. I found it interesting because I thought their would be some big difference.

    One of the purposes of the phase, phase I, of the ‘Leash the Bush Dogs’ campaign is to find out about the people we have so labeled. Just that. Find out about them. Not denigrate them nor demonise them. So your comments are very helpful. We want to know where these folks are good on progressive issues.

    Sorry if the first part of my post sounded negative. I’m not a real big fan of pro-footballers using their name-id and business connections to gain advancement in politics over those who have worked their way up so to speak. Rep Shuler certainly has his supporters and they, you among them, have pointed out where he has been a good representative so I would conclude he disproves my point in his case for sure.

    You can find the blog which started this campaign here:

    http://www.openleft.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=1073

    Note: There is discussion of primary challenges for some “Bush Dog Democrats’ but it is not something that is going to work or should be tried in every district. I am certain that local activists in each district are gonna have the final say on that. I personally think that Shuler looks like a progressive on everything but his support for Bush and so I’d like to see you local folks try and get him to change his mind on that.

    This is a work in progress so feel free to go over there and speak your mind. Matt Stoller and Chris Bowers can be combative but they are committed to the progressive movement.

    I got involved because I want to see movement in the Congress on Iraq and I also want to see Congress push back against Bush’s attempt to remake our nation into a Fascist state. The ‘Bush Dog’ faction is, along with other factions and forces in the Democratic Party, making this more difficult if not impossible and this is something I felt I could help with.

    This profile is only the first phase.

  28. A.Citizen says:

    Just came across a post by parachutec at FDL which mentions Rep. Shuler and says a little about how he got into politics. It’s titled: Rahm Emmanuel’s War. Check it out.

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